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Volume 47 Issue 1
January 2002 Editor: Chris Branam
FLIGHT LOG FOR NOVEMBER MEETING
QUORUM
Mr. Secretary, do we have a quorum for a meeting? We need at least 12 of our 120 members? Yes with 23 members present. The meeting was called to order at 7 PM. Present Membership now stands at approximately 120.
SECRETARIES REPORT
The minutes of the October meeting were read and are to be published on the Mile Hi RC Web site. Motion was made and seconded to accept the minutes of the September meeting. Motion carried. Brian
Omeara’s (one of our four life members) father died. A sympathy card was at the meeting for club members to sign. A Mile-Hi R/C T-Shirt was given to Aeroworks in appreciation of them hosting the November meeting.
TREASURES REPORT
-Marvin Sanders presented the 2002 budget. It was so moved and seconded to make our fiscal year match our membership year Oct. 1 to Sept 30. Motion carried.
-There was discussion, it was motioned and seconded to approve the budget. Motioned carried.
-The checking account balance as of 12-12-01 was $ , after paying October bills of
$ and November bills of $ .
-There was discussion, it was motion and seconded to transfer $ of checking into the Janus Funds. Motioned carried. It was agreed that Secretary Roy Olson and Board Member Jim Lewis would decide on which funds the money should go into.
-It was so moved and seconded to accept the Treasurer’s report. Motion carried
GUESTS OR NEW MEMBERS
New Senior Member, John Jaugilas and Junior Members Brent Motz and Thomas Edgar were at the meeting and were introduced. Other new members who joined in November are Jim Rogers and Donald Myer. Welcome back Doug Vansyoc who re-joined the club in November.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Membership
Membership Chairman Larry Symons was absent but he reported in November that we had 113 members and with additions it stands at approximately 120.
Publicity and Publications Committee Report
Newsletter editor Chris Branam had nothing new to report as the November meeting was held at Aeroworks. George Kerr discussed the website, and stated that we’ve 10,000 hits since its inception. It was suggested that the getting started/membership area of the website be more friendly for someone wanting to know how join and get started. George said he would look at it. A Membership button was added recently and the membership area had recently been re-worked.
Contest Committee
The Contest committee was established consisting of Larry Ott, George Kerr, and Bill Peters, and John Corliss. John would be scheduling a committee meeting for January.
Field Maintenance Committee
The benches and tables are in need of a fresh coat of paint, which will be addressed this coming spring.
Field Safety Committee
-The membership agrees to use flying stations if two or more people are flying. You may be out of the stations when taking off or landing, but not beyond the stations when landing.
-The new 1st Aid Kit is at the field. Directions to emergency services need to be put in the kit. A fire extinguisher has been installed under the shelter close to the pit area.
-Roy Olson our club Safety Officer reminded us of a few safety rules. Namely, the initial turn after take off should be away from the pilot stations/runway. Flyers should check with anyone in the field (looking for parts or retrieving a plane) before taking off. A radio check should be performed before any new or rebuilt plane is flown. Pilots Name or AMA number must be in all planes.
OLD BUSINESS
The library was mobilized and George Kerr brought it in. Check out sheets were discussed and it was suggested that items should be checked out for no more that 30 days, or until the next meeting. Dave Teich donated a Dave Brown flight simulator to the Library. Thanks Dave With this addition and perhaps some custom built buddy cords for PC shareware, we can cut the workload for our flight instructors. This may become crucial with good weather this spring.
NEW BUSINESS
The Polar Fly-in is scheduled to begin at 9:00 am January 1st, 2002. The deadline for registration was the club meeting and at that time, we had 30 pilots signed up to fly. Marvin Sanders was to contact Phil Kenney to see if he could prepare hot cider at the field. Tom Hanselin said he would bring a kerosene heater. Cider and donuts are to be provided by the club. It was discussed and motioned and seconded to limit distribution of the club roster to members only. The Roster would not be posted to the website but a current roster is available upon request by emailing or calling Membership Chairman, Larry Symons. It was also discussed that the roster would be available at the meetings.
SPEAKER
Ideas for Club Speakers were discussed. Bob Bergin was going to contact the Rocky Mountain Air Museum at Lowry (Wings over the Rockies) to schedule one for the January or February meeting.
Prez Sez
With 120 members so early in our membership year, I anticipate that when the warm weather returns, there will be many more flyers signing up. The Mile Hi R/C Club Instructor Pilot Program has worked very well in the past thanks to the tireless efforts of our Flight Instructors. We currently have three AMA approved Flight Instructors. They are Ric Emerson, Denny Edwardson, and Marvin Sanders. Only these three Flight Instructors are permitted to instruct non-AMA flyers… which are usually flyers deciding if the hobby is for them. Any other club member may teach a student, that also has an AMA membership. It is policy that new students are asked to join the club within 30 days of their first flight, if they are to continue flying. This coming spring, we may want to adopt a ground crew to check out the planes of new students, and make any necessary adjustments. This would free up the Flight Instructors to help members who are ready to fly, or fly their own airplanes.
Members are reminded that incidents and accidents can and do happen with model aircraft. All Club Instructor Pilots are highly qualified and capable r/c pilots, they will do everything in their power to assure a safe and uneventful flight of your model. Club Instructors are in NO WAY liable for incidents or accidents that damage or destroy your model which occur while they are operating your aircraft.
Club members are also reminded that Ground Crew and Instructor Pilots are functioning in these capacities on a voluntary basis. These members are at the field to fly their own aircraft; they will assist other members at the Instructors convenience.
Mile Hi R/C Club
Introductory Pilot Training Program Instructors
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Ric Emerson: Chief Flight Instructor |
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Denny Edwardson |
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Marvin Sanders |
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Club Flight Instructors |
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Jim McGee |
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Paul Noveshansky |
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Bill Peters |
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Jim Holt |
We’ll see you at the Polar Fly Jan. 1st, 2002. 9:00 a.m.
John Corliss
Flying machines:- "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." Physicist, Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, [ENGLAND] 1885.
Inventions:- "Everything that can be invented has been invented." Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

Polar Fly
Jim Rogers won the best dressed flyer since he took off most of his clothes (ended up in
small gym shorts, tee shirt, sandals, summer cap and no gloves) to fly. It was snowing like mad, the temp was in the teens, and the ceiling was low so flying had to be kept even lower. Only one crash. Ric Emerson was awarded 2nd Place for letting many of the others fly his plane since it was already warm and easy to start. Had 34 Registered. Largest turnout that I can remember.
Thanks Marvin for the submission
Editor’s Note
Submissions to the newsletter may be made through email or by phone. I can be reached at either sixty8kr@qwest.net or 303-750-7277. Deadline is one week following the meeting.


Windy Weather Planes
WINDY WEATHER PLANES
All too often, on an otherwise nice, but windy day, folks just don't fly. Obviously, for a beginner, that's just common sense - but for someone who has some experience, the wind should just be another challenge to add some spice to their flying.
While its easy to see that experience level has a lot to do with how much wind is too much, it may not be quite as apparent that the type of plane you're flying also can have a great effect on your ability to handle winds. Let's go through a bunch of airplane design features and see which ones give us the best flying characteristics to handle winds and the resulting turbulence.
Size: In general, the larger the plane, everything else being equal, the better it will handle winds of all kinds; they just don't "flop around" as much!
Dihedral: The more dihedral in a planes wing, the more it is going to be affected by crosswind gusts; it is hard to keep the wings reasonably level, and therefore lineup to the runway is difficult in a crosswind situation.
Wing Loading: The higher the wing loading, the less a plane will be affected when hit with a gust.
Aspect Ratio: Lower aspect ratio (stubby) wings will be less bothered by gusts; there is less leverage for side forces to upset the plane, and the lower aspect ratio wing has a greater tolerance to changes in angle of attack caused by gusts.
Power: Pretty obvious - having the power to overcome the forces provided by the wind is a must. The same goes when you get into a sticky situation.
Lateral Control: Ailerons are very beneficial in a crosswind, in landing and takeoff phases. The ability to dip a wing into a crosswind without changing heading is essential, as is the ability to rudder the plane parallel to the runway heading while keeping wings level with aileron while landing.
Landing Gear: tri gear planes are easier to land and take off in a crosswind than tail draggers. The wider the spread on the main gear, the better.
Maneuverability: This one’s a bit harder to quantify. You want a plane with stability, yet you do need good maneuverability to cope with gusts. So you want a plane that is stable, yet responsive.
Wing Mounting: Generally, a low wing plane will handle crosswinds better. This is because the CG of the plane is nearer, in a vertical sense, to the aerodynamic center of the wing. So the low wing plane is not as easily rolled by a side gust. And by mounting the main landing gear on that low wing, we can spread them out wider.
It's unfortunate that almost every item above is in direct opposition to the characteristics found in a lot of popular trainers, the main exception being the requirement for tricycle landing gear. But even with trainers, there are differences; compare a Seniorita with the Cadet Mk2. While the Seniorita may be a bit slower and a bit easier to fly, the Cadet, with its ailerons, higher wing loading, lower aspect ratio, and lower dihedral, is a far better plane flying in windy conditions. Going a step further with the same kit manufacturer, their Cougar (.40)/ Cobra(.60 size) kits embody ALL the right characteristics for windy flying.
And in closing, I offer Confucius' only known saying about R/C flying - "To
learn to fly in wind, one must fly in wind!".
From the AMA Nat’l Newsletter
NEXT BOARD MEETING
The next Board meetings will be held at 7pm at Larry Symons house, on January 12, 7pm
Next Monthly Meeting
The next monthly meeting will be at 7pm, January 14, 2002 at the Aurora South Library.
DOOR PRIZES
Action Hobbies $20 Gift Certificate: Mario Accardi
Blue Yonder $20 Gift Certificate: Unknown lucky member
Colpar Hobbies $20 Gift Certificate: Tom Hanselin
Gallon of fuel: Unknown lucky member
Thank you to all of our supporting hobby shops!!
CLASSIFIEDS
Contact Bud Trenary (303) 373-5915 or Olen Trenary (303) 478-3243
Carden 30% Extra 300 NIB* $450.00. If ordered from Carden today, it would be $499 + $50 shipping. Save $100.
Contact Jim McGee for the following (303) 699-3346
Giant Scale 1927 Travelair Biplane D4D
Wing span: Upper 72" Lower 64" Length 58" Height to top wing 22"
Covered with Dark Red 21st Century Fabric. Has been flown with a Moki 1.8 but would be perfect for a small to medium gas engine (G23- G38)
Extras: 2 Servos in top wing with extension cables, flying wire rigging $450
Mile Hi R/C Official Wear
Contact Phillip Kenney Phone 303-369-7044 or pkenney17@sprintmail.com
Prices are as follows: S-XL $60.00; 2XL $61.50; 3XL $63.00; 4X$64.50; 5XL $66.00 Prices do not include tax.
Winter jackets have your first name and AMA number on the front and the club logo on the back. The jackets appear to run on the small size so we recommend ordering one size larger than you normally wear.
Do you have other embroidery needs, Contact Phil, He can take care of all of your customized embroidery needs.
Contact Don Reaves. 303-841-1366. or Bdreaves@aol.com for the following:
8 ft. Curtiss Robin w/ 5 cyl. O.S. Sirius Engine, Xmtr, Loads of extras. $ 1450.00, Negotiable.
8 ft. Sig Spacewalker w/ 4 cyl. O.S. Pegasus, Xmtr, Loads of extras. $ 1250.00, Negotiable.
Volume 46 Issue 13 Tailspinners
Contact Bill Robinson 303-646-9784 for the following Kits, (NIB) for sale. Top Flite Zero, .60 to .80 engine, 61" WS, $125.00 All kits are without Engines and Radios.
Contact Paul Noveshansky: Weekends and Evenings (303) 751-8315 Weekdays (303) 572-3800 Email anytime
1. Goldberg 1/4 Scale Piper Cub Float Kit - NIB $50.00 Reduced to $35.00
2. 40 size 3 channel trainer, tail dragger, add engine and radio, Ready to Fly $75.00
3. K&B 40 N.I.B. $35.00
Mile Hi R/C Official Wear
Hats: Summer Edition (Mesh on top for venting) Blue, Club Logo up front $12.00 Winter Edition (full twill) Blue with Club Logo up front $12.00 T-Shirts Small, Medium, Large X-Large $12.00 Summer Jackets $53.00 3" Patches $5.00 All Items sold at Club Meeting!!
See Bob Bergin at the Club Meeting or call at (303) 693-9727.
Thank you to all of our supporting hobby shops!!
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